The Poker Floorman

A Floorman's perspective of the poker world

Poker Card Hits the Floor

What happens when a card hits the floor?

If a card is dealt off of the table by the dealer, it is treated like any other exposed or flashed card.  The dealer will continue to deal the entire table their down cards, then replace the card dealt off of the table with the next card on the deck.  The  card dealt off of the table is shown to the entire table and used as the burn card.  In other words, the card that would have been the burn card is used to replace the card dealt off of the table and the card that was dealt off of the table is now used as the burn card.

It’s a different story if a player drops his own cards onto the floor.  Roberts Rules of Poker states, “If you drop any cards out of your hand onto the floor, you must still play them.” However, some poker rooms have a house rule that renders the hand dead.  Be sure to know the house rules if plan on dropping your cards. 🙂


April 18, 2011 Posted by | For Beginner Poker Players, Poker Rules | , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

News & Info for Poker Rooms in Black Hawk, CO: 4.17.11

Black Hawk, Colorado Poker News

April 17, 2011

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Latest Poker News

Biggest Bad Beat Jackpot in Black Hawk:  Lodge Poker Room  $400,000
Congrats to Spencer Uniss for winning the HPT Main Event at Golden Gates!
The Isle of Capri Poker Room is now OPEN.

Trip report from the new Isle Poker Room:

I visited the new poker room on their opening night (Tuesday, April 12th), arriving at about 9:30pm.  There were four 1/2 100 SL games running and a few seats open so I got a seat right away. A 1/2 100SL Omaha 8 game started shortly after I arrived.

What I liked:
The room is isolated from the rest of the casino, which I like personally.  I don’t like slots ringing or a band playing 10 feet from my table.  Maybe I’m getting old (oh wait, I AM getting old….dammit!).  There are plenty of big TV’s and the chairs were comfy.  The cocktail tables are gigantic and high which is great – 9 handed tables allow for the room I guess.  I do like 9 handed tables myself, but the Black Hawk poker community has rejected that – the Golden Gates tried that and went ten handed shortly after opening.  There’s a bar and cocktail servers dedicated to the poker room which is really nice.  The service was a bit slow when I was there, but that’s probably just opening day stuff.  The staff was super-friendly.  There’s a restroom right there in the poker room with a TV embedded into the mirror (for those of us who actually wash our hands).

What I disliked:
While isolated from the rest of the casino, the room was “too” quiet for my taste.  Some music or even sports talk from the TV’s would have been nice.  The room is using the “Jumbo” KEM cards which I despise – but the Manager says he will be switching those out to the regular KEMS that most of the poker world is used to.  I’m not a fan of the rail that has the drink holders in them.  Again, just a personal preference.  When you actually have a beer bottle in there it’s just in the way.  I used the cocktail tables instead.

The felt on the tables was different…in a bad way.  It was difficult to pick up cards and players and dealers alike were complaining about it when I was there.  It’ll probably loosen up in time and be fine.  There were plenty of green dealers who took 5 minutes to count their bank, had difficulty with the “forward moving button” (which I love, but Black Hawk players have resisted for more than a decade and a half), and had difficulty with side pots, player comments, etc.  But that’s all opening day jitters stuff too.  The dealers will get up to speed quickly enough.

The room is nice and a good addition to the Black Hawk poker community.  Frankly, I see their opening as the demise of the Lady
Luck poker room.  The Lady Luck manager recently left and the casino hasn’t replaced her.  Take a short walk from Lady Luck to the Isle via the enclosed walkway and you’re there in a few minutes without even going outside.  Yeah, I don’t see the Lady Luck room lasting very long.  The Isle room is offering twice the comps, great promo’s and a better general experience than Lady Luck – and they’re the same company.  The writing appears to be on the wall, but we’ll see.

17 Poker Tables

Games typically running: 30/60 HK, 1/2-100 SL, 2/5-100 SL & 4/8 HK daily, 10/20 and (sometimes) 6/12 on weekends.

Tournaments: None

Bad Beat Jackpot: $350,000
Bad Beat Qualifier: Any Quads beaten, both hole cards need to play.

Promotions: None

Comps: $1 per hour

Special Events: None

14 Poker Tables
Games typically running: 1/2-100 SL daily, 10/20 and 4/8 on weekends.

12:00pm, 3:00pm and 7:00pm every day, $60 buy in.
WSOP 2011 Satellite Qualifiers run daily @ 12:00, 3:00 and 7:00, $60 buy in.

Bad Beat Jackpot: $400,000
Bad Beat Qualifier: Any Quads beaten, both hole cards need to play.

“Friday 2 Fifty”  Each hour from 1:00pm to 10:00pm on Fridays, each table will deal a 5 card hand face up on the table.  Then the table with the best hand deals each player at that table a 5 card hand face up.  The player with the best hand gets $250.

“Five at 5:00”  Players earn $5 per hour in comp from 5:00am to 10:00am.

Comps: $2 per hour, $4 per hour for VIP players.

Special Events: WSOP 2011 Main Event Satellite, June 19th @ 10:00am.

20 Poker Tables
Games typically running: 1/2-100 SL, 4/8 and Omaha Hi/Lo sometimes.

10:00am $40 buy in Monday through Thursday, $60 buy in Friday, Saturday & Sunday.
12:00pm  $60 Buy in Monday through Thursday, $100+$100 re-buy on Friday, $100 buy in Saturday, $100+ two $100 re-buys on Sunday
3:00pm  $60 buy in Monday through Sunday
7:00pm  $100 buy in Monday through Thursday, $150 buy in on Friday and Saturday, $100 buy in on Sunday

Bad Beat Jackpot: $59,000
Bad Beat Qualifier: Aces Full of Kings

“Lucky Bucket Splash Pot Poker” Starts April 15th and runs through April 30th between 2:00pm and 12:00am on Friday, Saturday & Sunday.  Each hour a randomly selected table is drawn – winner of the pot get an envelope with up to $500 in cash or tournament credit.

Comps: $5 per hour for 1/2-10 SL and 10/20 Omaha Hi/Lo, $1 per hour for all other games.

Special Events: None

6 Poker Tables
Games typically running: 1/2-10 SL, 1/2-100 SL

Monday through Friday – $40 buy in at 7:00pm.
Saturday – $40 buy in at 1:00pm,  $60 buy in at 5:00pm.
Sunday – $60 buy in at 2:00pm and 6:00pm.

Bad Beat Jackpot: $58,000
Bad Beat Qualifier: Aces full of Kings (qualifier decreases each Monday if the Bad Beat Jackpot isn’t hit and the backup is over $52,500)

“Showers of Cash Drawings” A name will be drawn and the winner gets cash.  If no winner is present the cash gets rolled into the next drawing.  For the 1:00am drawing names will be drawn until a winner is present.  Drawings at 3:00pm for $50, 6:00pm for $50, 9:00pm for $100, 11:00pm for $50, 1:00am for $100.

“Spin to Win” Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Comps: $1 per hour

Special Events: None

11 Poker Tables
Games typically running: The room opened Tuesday, April 12th so we’ll see.

Tournaments: None

Bad Beat Jackpot: $100,000

Bad Beat Qualifier: There is one Bad Beat Jackpot pool which can be hit a few different ways:
Quad 8’s or better beaten wins 75% of the Bad Beat Jackpot pool.
Any other quads beaten wins 50% of the Bad Beat Jackpot pool.
Aces full of Tens or better beaten wins 10% of the Bad Beat Jackpot pool.

“High Hand of the Hour”  High hand wins $100. This runs 24/7.

$2 per hour
Play 2 hours and get a hotel room for $29.  Play 6 hours and get a hotel room for free. (Sunday through Thursday only, no holidays)

Special Events: None

(Central City)
3 Poker Tables
Games typically running: “Old School” Colorado 2/5 SL almost exclusively (1/2-10 SL occasionally)

Tournaments: None

Bad Beat Jackpot: $20,000
Bad Beat Qualifier: “Quad of the Day”
This is a bit different.  If the “quad of the day” is made, then another hand that day that beats the “quad of the day” activates the Bad Beat.  For example:  if it’s Monday, the “Quad of the Day” is 8888.  If someone gets quad eights, then someone else hits a better hand at any time that day, the Bad Beat gets awarded.

Here are the “Quads of the Day”
Monday: 8888, Tuesday: 9999, Wednesday: TTTT, Thursday: JJJJ, Friday: QQQQ, Saturday: KKKK, Sunday: AAAA

Monday through Thursday: play 2 hours and receive $5 in comp

Comps: $1 per hour

Special Events: None

April 17, 2011 Posted by | News & Info for Black Hawk Poker | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Seat Changes in the Poker Room

How do Seat Changes work at the poker table?

There are many reasons for wanting to change seats at the poker table and it’s not as simple as just getting up and moving when you want to.  Other players may want to change seats as well.  To keep things under control, the dealer should have “Seat Change Buttons” to keep the order of seat changes clear to avoid arguments.  Players are given these buttons to preserve the order in which a seat change was requested:  the player with the Seat Change 1 button has the first option to move seats, then Seat Change 2, etc.  If you want a seat change just ask the dealer for a Seat Change button.

If there is an open seat at the table, any existing player has preference over a new player for that open seat provided that the existing player move to the seat before the new player becomes active in the game.  In the poker room where I work, the house rule is that once a new player takes the seat and sits down, no other player may claim that seat.  A good dealer will ask the existing players if anyone wants the open seat before a new player takes it.

Once there is an open seat and the player with the Seat Change 1 button is offered the seat, he may take it or or pass.  Then the player with the Seat Change 2 button is offered the seat.  Once a player changes seats, he relinquishes the Seat Change Button and he goes to the bottom of the seat change list if he wants to move again.  House rules do vary here somewhat.  Some poker rooms will make the player who declined the seat change forfeit the Seat Change button.  Other rooms let him keep it.  I prefer that the button be forfeited or one player can have first choice indefinitely, which doesn’t seem fair.

That all seems pretty straightforward, but what about the blinds?  Couldn’t a player repeatedly move seats to avoid paying the blinds?  No.  There are rules in place to combat this.

The generally accepted rule is that if a player moves to a vacant seat that is right next to the seat he’s already in, the game isn’t affected at all, so that player can move with no penalty and get a hand immediately.  If the player moves to a vacant seat that is closer to the blinds than the seat he’s already in (even if he jumps over other players), he can move with no penalty and this player can get a hand immediately as well.  Moving to a vacant seat that is farther away from the blinds incurs a penalty, and this is what keeps players from constantly moving seats to avoid the blinds.

When a player moves away from the blinds, he will be forced to sit out the same number of hands as players he jumped over or he can post the amount of the Big Blind.  For example:  the Button is in Seat 1 and the blinds are in Seat 2 and Seat 3.  The player in Seat 5 moves to Seat 8.  He jumped over 2 players (Seat 6 and 7), so he will have to wait 2 hands before being dealt in or post the amount of the Big Blind and receive a hand immediately.  The number of players that he jumped over is the same as the number of “free hands” he would receive if he was allowed to be dealt in right away.

In general, players are not allowed to move out of a blind position into a vacant seat.  Some rooms will allow the Small Blind to move seats, but the player is then required to post the amount of the Small Blind live.  The penalty here is that the player still pays the Small Blind and he will not be able to play his button on the next hand.

April 13, 2011 Posted by | For Beginner Poker Players, Going from Online to B&M Poker, Poker Rules | , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

The Oversized Poker Chip Rule

Placing an Oversized Chip in the Pot

If a poker player places a single chip or bill that is larger than the bet (or the blind) into the pot and he doesn’t state an amount for his bet, it is considered a call only.  This applies to both limit and no limit poker games.

For example:
In a $5-$10 Limit game a player faces a $10 bet.  He tosses out a $25 chip without saying anything.  His action is considered a call.
In a $1-$2 No Limit game a player faces a $10 bet.  He tosses out a $25 chip without saying anything.  This is still considered a call.

However, if the betting isn’t structured (like in a no limit game) and the player who is first to act after the flop throws out a single chip, the value of that single chip is considered his bet.  No declaration of bet size is necessary.  Preflop, an oversized chip put into the pot by the first player to act is considered a call if no declaration of raise has been announced.

It gets a bit trickier when more than one chip is involved, and this is a good example of why it’s important for poker players to state their intentions clearly.

If a player does not clearly state his bet and he puts more chips in the pot than is required to call, he is considered to have just called if the amount he put in the pot is less than one and a half bets.

If a player puts more than one and a half bets into the pot, his action is considered a raise.  At this point, the player may complete the raise or fold and forfeit any chips that he has already committed to the pot.

One more curve ball.  If a player doesn’t realize that there has been a raise and he only placed enough chips in the pot to call the unraised bet, the dealer should stop the action and inform the player that there has been a raise.  At this point, the player may reconsider his action if nobody has acted after him, and he can withdraw his chips from the pot.  If someone did act after him, he may call the raise or fold and relinquish the chips that he already committed to the pot.

The moral of the story is that poker players should always be aware of what the action is and state their intended action clearly and precisely.

As always, be sure that you know the specific house rules for the poker room that you are playing in, as their rules may vary from the “standard” rules used in most card rooms.

April 3, 2011 Posted by | For Beginner Poker Players, Going from Online to B&M Poker, Poker Rules | , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

State your intentions clearly and precisely

Bet, Call, Raise or Fold

These are the only four words that you really need to ever say in order to play poker.  Yet it seems that many poker players feel the need to use more colorful language to say what they want to do, or they just take shortcuts, use slang,  try to look cool, etc. which is all fine until there’s  confusion on what a players actual intentions are.

When you’re playing poker, it’s always best to state your intentions (bet, call, raise, fold) clearly and precisely so everyone knows exactly what you intended action is.  Saying ambiguous statements can get you into trouble at the poker table in many ways.

Let’s say Jim is in a hand and he’s heads up.  Jim is facing a $100 bet from his opponent and he’s thinking about whether he should call, raise or fold.  Jim is counting his chips and after a few moments he says, “OK…”  Then Jim’s opponent turns his hand face up and states “I have the nuts!  Ship it!”  But Jim really wasn’t calling, he was just thinking…OUT LOUD.  Maybe he was thinking “OK…I gotta fold”.  Jim protests that  he didn’t intend to call, but the whole table heard him say “OK” and they saw that he had chips in his hand.  Jim’s opponent doesn’t buy it and thinks that Jim is angle shooting.  This leaves a Floorman with a decision to make:  either Jim puts in his $100 or he’s allowed to muck. Either way, somebody’s pissed off:  Jim or his opponent.

This whole thing could have been avoided if Jim would have not made an ambiguous statement that any poker might have considered a call.  Players say “OK” then toss in their chips into the pot all the time.  So why not this time?

How about making the statement “You win” at a showdown?  If a poker player says this to you, protect yourself by either waiting for him to muck his hand or just table your cards face up on the felt to see who wins.  Believing that your opponent is mucking can be a big mistake.  Say you do believe him and you muck your cards, thinking that the dealer is going to push you the pot.  But wait…he still has his cards, so he tables them and technically wins.  The Floorman may decide this one way or another but it is in YOUR best interest to protect yourself and be sure that others are really doing what they are saying and not misleading you.  Frankly, someone saying “You win” at a showdown doesn’t mean that you win.  If your opponent shows a better hand, he wins.  (cards speak, remember? :))

The bottom line here is that you should be careful about what you say and be careful that you truly understand what your opponent is saying during a hand of poker.  If it’s unclear what your opponent is doing, just ask.  “Are you folding?”, “Are you all-in?”, etc., are all perfectly acceptable things to ask a poker player when you’re playing.


March 8, 2011 Posted by | For Beginner Poker Players, Going from Online to B&M Poker, Poker Rules | , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

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